The Bible for Dummies? Nah, Just Easy to Understand!
Dan Parr, the genius behind the Easy to Understand Read Bible (EUR), joins us for a chat about, you guessed it, making the Bible less of a brain-buster. Seriously, who knew a book could come with such a heavy instruction manual? We dive into the absurdity of trying to read ancient texts in today's world and how Dan turned his voiceover skills into a translation that doesn’t require a PhD to understand. He shares the wild journey of crafting a version that’s relatable and, dare I say, actually enjoyable for modern readers. Plus, we get into the whole "which translation is best" debate—because, let’s face it, that’s as heated as pineapple on pizza. So, if you’ve ever felt lost trying to decipher biblical language, this episode's for you. Buckle up, it’s gonna be a fun ride!
Takeaways:
- Dan Parr, the narrator of the Easy to Understand Read Bible, shares his wild journey through various Bible translations, from King James to his own version.
- In this episode, we dive deep into the absurdity of Bible translations and how language evolves, making it even harder for us to get the original intent.
- Dan's dedication to making the Bible accessible shines through as he discusses the challenges of translating complex texts into everyday language.
- The podcast highlights the hilarious moments of mispronouncing biblical names and the struggles of translating ancient texts into modern vernacular.
- Listeners will appreciate the behind-the-scenes look at Dan's four-year journey creating a Bible that speaks to today's readers without losing its essence.
- We tackle the importance of audio versions of the Bible, making God's word accessible in a way that fits into our busy lives.
Links referenced in this episode:
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Amazon
- NIV
- King James
- New King James
- Amplified
- World English Bible
- Christ Christian Standard Bible
- Gen Z
Transcript
Welcome back.
Speaker A:My name is Ashley and this is the Black Sheep Christian Podcast.
Speaker A:Today I have publisher and narrator Dan Parr.
Speaker A:Thanks for joining me today.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:It's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:I am so happy that you reached out because it's really interesting because I bought a new Bible the other day.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And I was telling people, I said, I am a Bible snob.
Speaker A:So, you know, I don't need, I didn't need a new Bible.
Speaker A:But it's kind of like, why not?
Speaker A:So it was kind of like the journal by like, you know those note take taking Bibles.
Speaker A:Is the margin big enough?
Speaker A:Is the pages soft enough?
Speaker A:Will they be able to, to, you know, handle my favorite pen, you know.
Speaker B:Without smudging.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:These things are so important.
Speaker A:So when you reach out about your translation, your eur, you're easy to understand.
Speaker A:Read Bible.
Speaker A:I was like, this is gonna be, this is very interesting in my journey because Bible translations are quite fascinating.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:In a way I started out, what did I start out with?
Speaker A:The King James.
Speaker B:Okay, you cut your teeth.
Speaker A:Then it was the new King James.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then for a hot minute it was amplified.
Speaker A:I remember that was popular.
Speaker A:And now right now it's the niv.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So what was your journey when it came to Bible translations?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So like you, I had kind of dabbled with the King James.
Speaker B:I never truly got into it because it was honestly just kind of a barrier to me.
Speaker B:The language and the terminology and the phrasing and the sentence structure, all of that just created a little bit of a barrier for me.
Speaker B:So early on I adopted the NIV and I used it for years and still use it as a matter of fact, and I enjoy it.
Speaker B:But as I developed in my journey with Christ, you know, I'm a voiceover artist by trade, so people pay me to record audio for them.
Speaker B:And I thought, I'm a voiceover artist, I'm a Christian and I enjoy doing the audio that I do, I'm doing.
Speaker B:But I really want to do something that has more meaning, some more impact.
Speaker B:And honestly, the Bible is the greatest piece of literature ever written in my opinion.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So how could I not want to record that?
Speaker B:But what I found is that when I went to pick up the Bible and thought I was just going to start recording, there's a little copyright on the first page saying that I couldn't do that.
Speaker B:And I get that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Companies have invested years and thousands of dollars to create new versions of the Bible and they don't want somebody just to take it and then do something that damages their brand.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So they want to have control over it.
Speaker B:So what that meant is that I had to come up with a new version or find one that was in the public domain.
Speaker B:The King James version is in the public domain.
Speaker B:But I knew that that was not going to work for me because I wanted to be something that was going to be easy to be understood by people.
Speaker B:So I began the journey of looking through what's available out there that I could record.
Speaker B:And I came across the World English Bible, which is a cross denominational public domain work that's very reliable and true to the original manuscripts.
Speaker B:And as good as it is, there's still some language that is just a little bit clunky sentence structure that's a little bit challenging.
Speaker B:So I had to go through it verse by verse, line by line, chapter by chapter, book by book, and rewrite it to kind of make it a little bit easier to digest for people.
Speaker B:And so that journey began over four years ago.
Speaker B:And I'm finally done.
Speaker B:I've completed everything, all 66 books.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Congratulations.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:Just imagining the work that I can only imagine the work that you've done, the research that you've done in order to complete it.
Speaker A:So I looked up what the new King James is, because the King James is a piece of work.
Speaker A:So with the new King James, this is Matthew 1:18, and this is explaining the birth of Christ.
Speaker A:So in the new King James it says, now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows.
Speaker A:After his mother Mary was bethod to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child by the Holy Spirit.
Speaker A:And so your version, the easy to understand read is Matthew 1:18.
Speaker A:Now the birth of Jesus was like this.
Speaker A:After his mother Mary was engaged to Joseph, before they became intimate, she was found pregnant by the Holy Spirit.
Speaker A:So that is for those to be able to.
Speaker A:Now you can find it on Amazon, you can also read it yourself.
Speaker A:But I mean, automatically with that one verse alone, it's kind of like, I mean, I've read the Bible for.
Speaker A:But with your easy read, it's kind of like.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:Intimate versus throwed.
Speaker A:Even if I said that word.
Speaker A:Right, right, right, right.
Speaker A:Pregnant.
Speaker A: that's, that's easy for me in: Speaker A:Instead of she was found with child.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Was she missing?
Speaker B:What happened?
Speaker A:So not only with.
Speaker A:When I think about it, what's so fascinating with language is that it just moves, is like a tide.
Speaker A:It just moves as the earth moves.
Speaker A:And for you to be able to do this work?
Speaker A:Just that, just that one verse alone.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I can picture her being pregnant by the Holy Spirit before then.
Speaker A:She's engaged faster than the new King James version.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The Bible is just such a rich text.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And there are so many stories out there that are just so vividly painted and so alive.
Speaker B:I mean I, I believe the Bible when it says that it is alive and active and sharper than a two edged sword.
Speaker B:I believe Jesus inhabits his Word and that when we read the Bible that we are having fellowship with Jesus because that he is his word.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I am the way, the truth, the life, I am the word.
Speaker B:All those things.
Speaker B:Jesus is with us when we read it.
Speaker B:And to break down any barriers, I just wanted to make it flow.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So that people could just understand the essence of what's being said.
Speaker B:Thank you for doing that verse.
Speaker B:That's a, that's a great illustration.
Speaker B:I try to relate a incident to people.
Speaker B:It's like if I say Mike has a red car.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I could also say the color choice automobile of Mike is, is red.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's saying the same thing, but one is much easier to understand and flows much better.
Speaker B:So that's what I wanted to do with this translation.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What was the outside of research?
Speaker A:Like what, what was the, what was the greatest obstacle in doing this?
Speaker B:Great question.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Part of it is just the size.
Speaker B:It's three quarters of a million words.
Speaker B:There's over 750,000 words in the 66 books.
Speaker B:So it's a, it's a large volume and it just took an enormous amount of time to complet.
Speaker B:One of the things that was a little bit of a challenge was the names of people.
Speaker B:Oh my goodness.
Speaker B:You know, Ashley, Dan, great names.
Speaker B:If people could have just had those names during the Bible times.
Speaker B:Well, some did, but a lot of those people, Aminadab and Tycheus and Zerubbabel.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:For a long time I was calling them zero Babble and then I had to go back and correct it.
Speaker B:There may be a long list of people when I get to heaven who say, how did you pronounce my name?
Speaker B:Is that what you really thought?
Speaker A:That is funny.
Speaker A:That's interesting that you say that because being in a Bible study with a couple of pastors, like I remember one time I said, did they drill you guys on how to say not only these names but these cities?
Speaker A:Because I'd be scrolling.
Speaker A:I mean, I was struggling yesterday with what was it we were in second Samuel.
Speaker A:I think it was like chapter 10 and this is like the amnites.
Speaker A:I'm just, you know, like David and, you know, he's still doing his thing.
Speaker A:And so, you know, it was like the Amnites and then this N word and I just couldn't.
Speaker A:I just couldn't pronounce the N word.
Speaker A:It was like Nara Noon.
Speaker A:I don't, I don't even remember.
Speaker A:It was such a struggle.
Speaker A:And even with the names like it, like, I just have a hard time imagining, you know, the setting because the name just trips you up.
Speaker A:So with this version, it just is just a less of a barrier to understand what is happening.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you know, I've grown.
Speaker B:I was fortunate to grow up at a Christian house.
Speaker B:And so most of my life has been hearing the words spoken by pastors or others.
Speaker B:So I had a pretty good base to pull from of what people have said in the past.
Speaker B:And of course there's other narrators out there who have taken on the work and I was able to listen to what they did.
Speaker B:But like I say, I'm sure there's.
Speaker B:There's a few names I'm sure that are probably not correct, but hopefully got most of them.
Speaker A:I think you did.
Speaker A:I think you did.
Speaker A:I mean, four years, I think you did.
Speaker A:And you did it by yourself.
Speaker A:Which, which is a testament in itself because like the Christ Christian Standard Bible.
Speaker A:I'm thinking of that because that's one of the newer versions in my mind.
Speaker A:Like, that was a committee, like translations are a committee.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Of multiple people in order to understand context.
Speaker A:Because you got to do that.
Speaker A:It's just not, it's not just choosing a different word, but context.
Speaker A:And plus what, what people, I don't see here is that parentheses and, and like punctuation.
Speaker A:Like, I could tell, like in the new King James, his is capitalized, but yours his is lowercase.
Speaker A:Like, like there's so much nuance.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker A:And commas and colons and all those things.
Speaker B:Honestly, punctuation was one of the things that is still a big headache for me.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm going through my own Bible reading plan now that I've got out there.
Speaker B:And I'm thinking, oh man, I should put a comma there, not a period.
Speaker B:And so I have to go back and I'll update it so future people will future buy it.
Speaker B:Will.
Speaker B:Will have the updated version.
Speaker B:But yeah, punctuation, definitely a big one then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So when you come across parentheses now, is that what the original author put in or is that what somebody else put in from a Committee or how do you do that?
Speaker B:When I put in my own parentheses, if I'm specifying a distance or a weight, I'll translate 10 talents into however much today's currency is.
Speaker B:And so I'll put it in parentheses and then italicize it so they know it's not original to the text.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Now, were you an English major?
Speaker B:Communications, actually.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay, so it kind of fits, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I studied communications.
Speaker B:And so people thought.
Speaker B:People have asked, well, don't you have a theological background?
Speaker B:Well, I've taken a couple seminary classes, but to be honest with you, I don't have a seminary degree.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But I would like to say that I feel like I have a team of theologians and Bible scholars that have supported me because in the past 2,000 years, there have been faithful men and women of God who have jotted down their ideas, their notes, their translations of the Bible, and faithfully copied by hand, in some cases, the text.
Speaker B:And there's a multitude of commentaries out there.
Speaker B:So that when I have a question about something, I have a vast number of resources available to me to be able to look to see what.
Speaker B:Okay, who is he saying this to?
Speaker B:What was the context of that?
Speaker B:What kind of book is this?
Speaker B:Is it poetry?
Speaker B:Is it history?
Speaker B:Or is it, you know, any of the other versions, styles of writing that you find in the Bible?
Speaker B:Because all of that pulls into it and plays a part as to, you know, how you say it and what you say.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it does.
Speaker A:It really does.
Speaker A:Because, I mean, in the end, when it comes to just studying the Word and you know what?
Speaker A:Okay, I have another thought, too.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:It just hit me, like, zoom, you know, sometimes, did you ever, I wonder if, like, you felt like, had this thought, like, the people putting the Bible Together originally, 2,000 years ago, were they going through this feeling the way I was feeling?
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I would have to think so, right?
Speaker B:Because when you take on something like this, you feel the enormity of the task upon you.
Speaker B:I mean, as a Christian, the last thing we want to do is do anything that would degrade the word of God or take away the original intent or meaning.
Speaker B:And I felt that pressure on me, and I didn't want to do anything that was going to offend God or misrepresent him or his Word in any way.
Speaker B:So I can only imagine how they felt.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:I think about this, too, Ashley.
Speaker B:The original disciples, Jesus didn't give them anything written down about he.
Speaker B:What he wanted them to say.
Speaker B:He trusted that they were going to get It.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And I think, wow, what a.
Speaker B:What a burden that would have been right for to have God trust you with his message.
Speaker B:When I was fortunate that I have lots of stuff to pull from that people have already worked on.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But they didn't have that.
Speaker B:I mean, they had the Old Testament, but even when they were doing the Old Testament.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Those guys, when they had to write those things, Moses, when he wrote his book, and Ezra and Nehemiah, all those guys.
Speaker B:Jeremiah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I can only imagine the pressure that they felt.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And, you know, it's funny that I chose Matthew because Matthew.
Speaker A:I personally like Matthew just because Matthew was.
Speaker A:I mean, that.
Speaker A:That was his gift as far as just recording so much.
Speaker A:I mean, I can only imagine what he was feeling at the time.
Speaker A:Like, oh, I didn't write that down, or, oh, did I calculate that?
Speaker A:But Matthew was a tax collector, so he just, you know, that a lot of it came naturally, but I can only imagine the perfection that he was probably going through.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker A:Was Right.
Speaker B:And then knowing what to put in.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because the Bible tells us, I suppose, that if I were to write down everything, there wouldn't be enough paper in the world to fill.
Speaker B:You know, he couldn't.
Speaker B:It would take up so much space.
Speaker B:So I can only imagine what his process was to.
Speaker B:To think, okay, this is important to include.
Speaker B:And this one I'll probably leave out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Interesting, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But part of it is I.
Speaker A:I do wish that they did write everything down.
Speaker A:Sometimes I'd be like, come on now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I feel like something is missing right here.
Speaker B:Well, thank goodness for the illumination of the Holy Spirit.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So another question for you.
Speaker A:I'm going back to the original question that I had in my mind is with this, after the completion of this project, I mean, what.
Speaker A:What was the response?
Speaker A:How did it make you feel?
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:What have you received since the completion of this project?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So first off, just a sense of gratitude.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And honestly, in humility, I just say, thank you, God, for allowing me to do this.
Speaker B:What a privilege to be able to do this.
Speaker B:Because it was such a joy, Ashley, to be with God in his presence for so much of the day.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Just going through his word and saying, lord, what should I put here?
Speaker B:What does this mean?
Speaker B:How can I better explain this?
Speaker B:And then, you know, having him lead me to a resource that would help illuminate it for me so that I could, you know, put that out there in my version.
Speaker B:So it was just such a Joy to spend that time communing with God as.
Speaker B:As I went through this.
Speaker B:Now, as far as feedback, there's a couple reviews on Amazon and Audible, and I've been very, very thrilled and humbled to read what people have wrote.
Speaker B:One that sticks out.
Speaker B:I forgot it was one of the Gospels.
Speaker B:I forgot which one.
Speaker B:But this young man said that he grew up on the King James Version.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And as he got older, he kind of just left Jesus to the side and started getting into New Age.
Speaker B:And he said he read over 50 new age books, and then he happened to come across mine, my version, one of the Gospels.
Speaker B:And he said it really made sense to him, and it clicked.
Speaker B:And now he's rededicated his life to Christ.
Speaker B:And I'm just so thrilled to hear that because that's exactly what I've been praying for.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That it would encourage people, help them get engaged with the Word, and that they would be able to hear God through it.
Speaker B:So I'm just happy to see that that's what's happening.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's beautiful.
Speaker A:And it's interesting that you say that, because, I mean, even though I got a Bible, I mean.
Speaker A:I mean, we have this.
Speaker A:So technically I don't need to buy another book, but there's something about a book that really makes it feel intimate.
Speaker A:But when it comes to translations, the best way I can put it is like, it's like a meal, you know, Mexican, Do I want Italian?
Speaker A:Do I want, like.
Speaker A:Like, there's like.
Speaker A:Each translation is just a different flavor.
Speaker A:Even though they're all trying to convey the same message, they feel different.
Speaker A:Like the new King James.
Speaker A:I feel like it's stone.
Speaker A:You know, it's just.
Speaker A:Is just strong.
Speaker A:It's there, like foundation.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But with your.
Speaker A:But with your translation, it's like air.
Speaker A:It's like I can easily breathe through it and easily be able to go from page to page lightly and not have to think hard about it, if that makes sense.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:That's exactly the intent and the goal.
Speaker B:So thank you for that.
Speaker B:To take down any kind of barrier that people might feel who going through it.
Speaker B:And I appreciate what you said about flavors, because I was thinking when I started this, do we need another version of the Bible?
Speaker B:Not really.
Speaker B:I mean, we've got lots of them out there.
Speaker B:But this was kind of like my love offering to God.
Speaker B:So as I was doing it, I thought, well, I'll make it available to other people too, and if they want it, great.
Speaker B:And if they don't, great.
Speaker B:You Know, it can be their decision if it'll help them.
Speaker B:Fantastic.
Speaker B:But I thought, like you said, flavors.
Speaker B:You just talked about Mexican food, which I absolutely love.
Speaker B:And I had thought about.
Speaker B:I thought about it like ice cream.
Speaker B:You know, Baskin Robbins sells more than one flavor for a reason.
Speaker B:People have different tastes.
Speaker A:Very true.
Speaker A:Very true.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:Mine is Oreo.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:Mint chocolate chip for me.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:I was just.
Speaker A:I'm now just.
Speaker A:I had a question, and now I'm thinking about food, and it just my mind now.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I mean, when it comes to translations.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I say that because the world is changing.
Speaker A:I know there's like a Gen Z Bible that's out there, and a co worker found it.
Speaker A:I don't know how or why, but I thought it was the most hilarious translation in the world.
Speaker A:But really, I.
Speaker A:I say that as an example because with the person who made that comment, it's really about just spreading God's word and however you can do it and what tools you can do it, that is the goal.
Speaker A:Because at the end of the day, you were called to create something.
Speaker A:And so because of that, it allowed somebody to come to him.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And, you know, talking about just the call that we all have.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Go and make disciples.
Speaker B:And one of the ways that we're going to do that is through the word of God.
Speaker B:And we want to make the process of making disciples as easy as possible.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So if I can put something together that's going to help in that, you know, God bless them, use it however you will to fulfill the commission that we have.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What was the most easiest book that you.
Speaker A:That you wrote?
Speaker B:Whoo.
Speaker B:That's a tough one, right?
Speaker B:I would say probably Genesis, because I love Genesis.
Speaker B:It's one of my favorite books of the Bible.
Speaker B:And I'm kind of just like a Genesis nerd.
Speaker B:We go through the life of.
Speaker B:I go through the life of Joseph on a regular basis, and I pull from him a lot.
Speaker B:So I think just because I had such an enthusiasm for the book, it probably made it easier to do.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Which isn't bad.
Speaker A:I mean, what.
Speaker A:What book did you even start translating when you even started the project?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I never had the idea in my head to do the entire Bible.
Speaker B:When I started, I thought, I'll put together a few verse that I can show on Facebook around Easter.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so I did a little bit of Luke, and I got some good response from that.
Speaker B:And I really enjoyed doing it.
Speaker B:I enjoyed talking about or Enjoying saying God's word and reading it.
Speaker B:And so I thought, well, okay, I'll go ahead and do the whole book of Luke.
Speaker B:So I had that done, and then I felt a little restless, and it seemed like God was saying three other gospels, you know, So I thought, okay, I'll do the Gospels.
Speaker B:And I did all four gospels.
Speaker B:And it's like, Romans is a pretty good book.
Speaker B:People need to know about that.
Speaker B:So it just kind of led from one book to another.
Speaker B:And I thought, okay, I'll just do the New Testament.
Speaker B:Got done with the New Testament.
Speaker B:Well, I really like Psalms and Proverbs.
Speaker B:I'll do those two.
Speaker B:I got done with those.
Speaker B:Well, I like Genesis.
Speaker B:And then you start.
Speaker B:Okay, now I got to do Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy.
Speaker B:You got to get the five, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And so it just kind of continued on from there.
Speaker B:And before long.
Speaker B:Well, actually, it was long, four, four and a half years, I finally had the whole thing done.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:What was the hardest one?
Speaker B:You know, it's.
Speaker B:It's funny, but I didn't think Revelation was as hard as it was going to be.
Speaker B:I think just because there's so much that's been written about it that made it easier.
Speaker B:But what I do remember is just having a more challenging time than I thought with 1st and 2nd Corinthians.
Speaker B:For some reason, just some of the wording that they had and some of the sentence structure that they had, I thought was a little bit challenging.
Speaker B:And so that one really took longer than I thought it should have because it was just more difficult for me, for whatever reason.
Speaker A:Yeah, I can understand that.
Speaker A:Why that could be hard.
Speaker A:I'm just thinking about Paul.
Speaker A:Paul is a very interesting writer.
Speaker B:Paul is a genius, but, boy, I wish he would have had an editor to help him sometimes, you know, and he did.
Speaker B:The Holy Spirit.
Speaker B:And what he put is exactly right.
Speaker B:There is something to be said about the way that he writes.
Speaker B:It's not just something that you can pick up and skim through, Right?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:The way he writes it makes you stop and think.
Speaker B:And I think that's by design by the Holy Spirit.
Speaker B:So I say that, you know, I joke that he needs an editor for.
Speaker B:To make it simple for simple people like me.
Speaker B:But I appreciate the fact that it's something you really have to dive into and get out your, you know, your knife and fork and cut through to.
Speaker B:To digest.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's interesting because last week I had a.
Speaker A:We were doing Corinthians, First Corinthians.
Speaker A:And so we're in the last.
Speaker A:We were at the last one.
Speaker A:And so it reminded me of this one that really made you think.
Speaker A:And this is Paul in First Corinthians 16.
Speaker A:I'm going to start at 22.
Speaker A:And he said, well, 21.
Speaker A:So I, Paul, well, this is the new international version.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Let people know.
Speaker A:So I, Paul, write this greeting in my own hand.
Speaker A:If anyone does not love the Lord, let that person be cursed.
Speaker A:Come, Lord, the grace of the Lord Jesus be with you.
Speaker A:My love to all of you in Christ Jesus.
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker A:So, and.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I read that because of how Paul writes, like, it really stops you.
Speaker A:Like, what curse?
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Wait a minute.
Speaker A:That you.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:This whole chapter is about loving each other.
Speaker B:That's funny.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You'd be like, who's cursing who?
Speaker A:Moment you.
Speaker A:That, that is.
Speaker A:I mean, that's what Bible study is.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker A:You're researching.
Speaker A:You're trying to really understand the context, which I believe I could be wrong.
Speaker A:It's not us to be the cursing, it's the Lord to be doing the cursing.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Who's he writing it to?
Speaker B:The Corinthians, which was, you know, Corinth, you know, is very vile city.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So they were.
Speaker B:They were living among.
Speaker B:I guess it would be kind of probably what we would consider, like, Las Vegas.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Even worse.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They were living their best lives.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, they really were.
Speaker A:I mean, when you think about the timing of it, like, you know, after, you know, the resurrection, you know, things are kind of just going back to normal.
Speaker A:People are starting to have a new normal after Jesus.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They were living their best lives.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Paul could have been speaking to me, too.
Speaker A:Like, what are you doing?
Speaker B:And that's the thing about the Bible, too.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:The things that Jesus said to his disciples are things that he's saying to us.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:These are the messages that he wants us to know, the things that he wants us to learn.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:At different times in our lives.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:We all need to hear different things.
Speaker B:And I think that's why there's 66 books in the Bible.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:There's something for everybody at some point in their lives.
Speaker A:Yeah, Yeah, I.
Speaker A:I really agree with that.
Speaker A:Now, this may be a controversial question, but we all know, or not all, but a lot of us know that there are books outside of the.
Speaker A:The Bible.
Speaker A:Where.
Speaker A:Have you ever thought about studying those and translating those?
Speaker B:You know, it's interesting.
Speaker B:The Apocrypha, right, as we're talking about.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:My son Has.
Speaker B:He's a, he's a, he's a Gen Z.
Speaker B:So he's very interested in, in that kind of stuff.
Speaker A:They are, yes.
Speaker B:But even the Bible, if it references like the book of Enoch in the book of Jasher, and we don't have those anymore.
Speaker B:I mean, you can still get a hold of them outside of the Bible.
Speaker B:But I thought, you know, I'm just gonna go with what the canonized word is for right now.
Speaker B:If I feel, if I feel God leading me to do it at some point in the future, I will.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I haven't since that call just yet.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, I figured just right now what we've got in the canon is, is sufficient for me.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker A:I mean, I asked the question because.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I mean, the Gen Z, they are really.
Speaker A:Those that are in the faith, they are really just out there just trying to grab their hands on anything and everything that they can, which isn't a problem.
Speaker A:I mean, it's just the tools are there for them, which our generation, the tools were not there as much.
Speaker A:I mean, we were just given a version and we had to read that version.
Speaker A:We didn't really.
Speaker A:I mean, if our parents allowed us to go to the store to pick up a new version like that, that was, was probably.
Speaker B:Wasn't your mind blown?
Speaker B:The first time you read a different version of the Bible than the one you're.
Speaker B:Than one you're familiar with, it's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker B:That's not the word of God.
Speaker A:It so was.
Speaker A:Yeah, it so was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because I mean, as a kid, as a young person, like another, another version didn't even, wasn't even in the ether of the mind.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:It just, it, it was like this, this was it.
Speaker A:And this is what the family read from.
Speaker A:This is the family Bible.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, for a long time I thought Paul must have knew English and wrote it in English.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:That is very true.
Speaker A:That is a very true statement.
Speaker A:Because when they're like, yeah, it was written in Greek, I was like, what?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not English.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I thought it was the universal language.
Speaker B:Anymore.
Speaker B:It might be, but yeah, back then, Greek and Hebrew.
Speaker A:That is funny.
Speaker A:That's interesting.
Speaker A:Have.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I don't think yours is, I think is.
Speaker A:Yours is just.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, it's just in English.
Speaker A:I didn't see if it was like you're trying to do Spanish or anything like that.
Speaker A:But that's another day.
Speaker B:If I can figure out how to make AI translated into different languages and it'd be correct.
Speaker B:I'll do it.
Speaker A:Oh, that is funny.
Speaker A:Oh, goodness.
Speaker A:So what, what is really next for you with this translation outside of, you know, just promot promoting it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I've got a few different versions out there now.
Speaker B:So I've got the whole Bible.
Speaker B:And I thought, well, now that I've got that, I can do some interesting things with it.
Speaker B:So I've come out with the chronological Bible, so if people want to read it in from oldest to newest, they can do that.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I've also got Bible in a year, so they can do it in 365 days.
Speaker B:Now what's interesting is that as I was reading through comments of reviews of other Bibles in a year, one of the complaints that people had was that, well, if you want to start on January 1st, great.
Speaker B:But if you want to start on February 1st or March 1st or October 1st, you're kind of out of luck.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I thought, well, I can address that.
Speaker B:So I put out 12 different versions.
Speaker B:You want to start on January 1, you want to start on June 1, you want to start on September 1.
Speaker B:I've got a version for you.
Speaker B:And that way they can keep up with it by the date.
Speaker B:And if you miss a day or two, all you got to do is look at the date and know where you're supposed to be at.
Speaker B:So you can go through the entire Bible in just a year.
Speaker B:And really it's not, it's not that hard when you do it.
Speaker B:It's about 10 minutes a day on average.
Speaker B: So yeah,: Speaker B:So I've got all of those out there and I even got one called Just God's Word where if you want to start like, you know, the 27th of May, you can do that.
Speaker B:And it'll list a day one, day two, day three.
Speaker B:So if you feel want to do that way.
Speaker B:So I've got all of those out there.
Speaker B:And in addition to, you know, the Bible as individual books, you know, I've got just the book of Matthew or just the book of Revelation or just the book of first and second Corinthians.
Speaker B:If people want to read only a certain portion of the Scripture, they don't have to buy the entire Bible.
Speaker B:They can just, you know, get that specific book or books that they're looking for.
Speaker B:But what I'm working on right now is we talked about my son is Gen Z and the interests that they have and the, their passions and Their concerns.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And I have a heart for them probably because my son is.
Speaker B:Is one.
Speaker B:But I'm putting out a Gen Z version of the 300 of the Bible in a year.
Speaker B:So to go through the entire Bible in a year for Gen Z, still the same version that I've got right now, the eur but then at the end of each day I've got a devotional that speaks to the chapters that they've read for that day.
Speaker B:Kind of my experiences and what I've seen and addressing their concerns mixed in with what's relevant to the text for that day.
Speaker B:So that's going to be out in a few months.
Speaker B:It'll be called a dad's.
Speaker B:I'm still working on title, but a dad's Word to Gen Z 365 Day Bible Reading Plan.
Speaker B:Something like that.
Speaker A:That's beautiful.
Speaker A:That's really beautiful.
Speaker B:Thanks.
Speaker A:I had a couple of thoughts at the same time.
Speaker A:10 minutes a day.
Speaker A:I never really realized that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so I think that's great that you put that together for people because the Bible is scary and not scary at the same time.
Speaker A:It's scary because you just look at this big book and you're like, oh, where do I start?
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:And I remember I was like, oh, I'm gonna read this in a year.
Speaker A:And I started at Genesis.
Speaker A:I was flowing and then it hit me.
Speaker A:I think I stopped.
Speaker A:The slowdown was the family the Leviticus of all the laws.
Speaker A:I was just like, I'm out.
Speaker B:Well, I appreciate, I appreciate you saying that because I've had the same experience.
Speaker B:So what I did with this one is the Bible reading plans.
Speaker B:I didn't want to nail them with all the Old Testament up front.
Speaker B:I'll give them a lot of the Old Testament, but then I'm going to throw in some New Testament each week as well.
Speaker B:So it's not so hard.
Speaker B:So you don't feel like you're just, you know, slogging through the mud.
Speaker B:Because when you get to Leviticus numbers, those can be some challenging reads.
Speaker B:And it's nice to have a little break of New Testament or Psalms and Proverbs in there to break it up.
Speaker A:Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker A:All those laws.
Speaker A:I don't think I would have made it back then.
Speaker A:I don't think I would have made it.
Speaker B:I've often said as I was going through this, you know, going through Leviticus and the laws and thinking about having to keep all this, it's like, thank you God that you did not put me in that time.
Speaker B:That I'm alive now 20, 25, and not back then, because I would have been out.
Speaker B:I don't think I could have done it.
Speaker A:I could have been like, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:When.
Speaker A:If you.
Speaker A:If you haven't read Leviticus.
Speaker A:For people who haven't read.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:When you read Leviticus, I understand numbers better.
Speaker A:Like, I could have been like, you know what?
Speaker A:I could have been just like those people.
Speaker A:Be like, life was better in Egypt after all these laws.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:The struggle was real.
Speaker B:Oh, but, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's a challenge.
Speaker A:But that is beautiful that you're putting something together for Gen Z.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:With the different translations that are out there, I know I haven't read all of them, but I've read a mixture of them.
Speaker A:What I do like about your version as well is there are newer versions out there that are trying to capture the youth, and some of those younger versions are really heavy on the slang.
Speaker A:And slang is fine, but slang out of the.
Speaker A:Out of the English language, slang really changes from generation to generation.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker A:So you're.
Speaker A:So what was.
Speaker A:I'm only thinking of a baby boomer, like Whippersnapper, you know, that.
Speaker A:That I barely even remember what it means.
Speaker A:But, you know, it's something quick like whippersnapper.
Speaker A:Like, that's something that we don't use today.
Speaker A:You know, I'm trying to remember what we said as kids, and I can't remember that.
Speaker A:But, you know, things like slang changes, but with your version, I feel that it should hold the test of time, because it doesn't.
Speaker A:It's just enough, you know, it's just enough to carry me with today's language.
Speaker A:And it's just enough to be able to.
Speaker A:To hold.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like there's just not.
Speaker A:The slang, isn't there?
Speaker A:That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And that was a conscious choice.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because I appreciate you saying that, Ashley, about how slang changes meaning over time.
Speaker B:For example, when I started learning how to read, I remember we were reading these books and they had the word keen in it.
Speaker B:K, E, E, N.
Speaker B:And I had never heard that word in my life.
Speaker B:I was 6 years old, and I thought, what is this?
Speaker B:What does keen mean?
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker B:And the teacher's like, oh, well, that would mean like, neato or far out.
Speaker B:You know, it's like, okay.
Speaker B:And then I think about.
Speaker B:I saw this comedian talking about he was from another culture and he's learning English, and he said, I don't understand the Word bad.
Speaker B:Sometimes bad is good and sometimes bad is bad.
Speaker B:So it all depends on the context.
Speaker A:That is a very good example.
Speaker A:That's a very good example of slang.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I, Yeah, this version is.
Speaker A:Is beautiful.
Speaker A:It feels like as if it's going to stand the test of time.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:I know we, I know the King James is.
Speaker A:Well, we'll just hold.
Speaker A:Because just the King James is really the foundation of what we have today.
Speaker A:And so even though people will read it less and less, it is it King James is just the foundation to go to.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker A:To begin with, what.
Speaker A:What we have today.
Speaker A:So, yeah, kudos to you.
Speaker A:I mean, doing a translation is just, wow.
Speaker A:I just want to take the time to be like, wow.
Speaker A:I would have never.
Speaker A:Now, first of all, God probably wouldn't have called me.
Speaker A:He'll probably been like, this woman would have been out.
Speaker A:One verse, she's out.
Speaker A:But to be able to take that time to do a new translation, I really, I just want to say kudos to you.
Speaker A:Congratulations.
Speaker A:Because, I mean, what you have done, I just pray that it will just out.
Speaker A:I just pray that it will hold for generations to come.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:You know, you.
Speaker A:You have put your imprint for God and you have done something that, I mean, I hope like 100 years people will be like, man, Dan Parr put that together.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And to be honest with you, that's very kind.
Speaker B:Thank you so much.
Speaker B:I don't care if they remember me or not, to be honest with you.
Speaker B:What I want them is to be engaged in the word of God.
Speaker B:And if by listening to my voice, that helps them, you know, Fantastic.
Speaker B:I'm trying to promote the audio Bible just because, you know, voiceover talent.
Speaker B:This is where I feel like my gifting is.
Speaker B:And what I really wanted to do, I had to put the print version in order to get the audio version.
Speaker B:So they kind of came hand in hand.
Speaker B:But yeah, if people will just get engaged with the word of God.
Speaker B:And I'm praying specifically that as people listen to me, they don't even really hear me.
Speaker B:They hear God speaking to them, and that's what I want.
Speaker A:That's beautiful.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And with the audio version, I know I keep talking about the text, the text, the text.
Speaker A:But with.
Speaker A:When it comes to Bibles and audio versions, there's something soothing about listening.
Speaker A:And sometimes when it comes to audio versions, I know when I have done a Bible study, I actually go.
Speaker A:I have at times gone to an audio version in order to help immerse me into a space.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, Faith comes by hearing.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so what a great way to commune with your father, then just let him speak to you through his word.
Speaker B: de, oh, this is some guy from: Speaker B:And just think, now, this is the word of God.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:What does he have to say to me in this moment?
Speaker B:And the great thing about the audio version is that so much of our day is spent kind of like captive, where we're forced to be like in a car commuting or on a train commuting.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And you can just take that time and create your own little personal sanctuary as you're in your car or listening on your headphones to the word of God.
Speaker B:It's just a great way to invite more of God into your life and keep your mind and your thoughts focused on his word.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:And sometimes it's just a really.
Speaker A:Because I, I mean, I, I admit there are times when I.
Speaker A:The audio's on, but I'm not really paying attention to it.
Speaker A:But it's really just an atmospheric.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm trying to think of the word.
Speaker B:Atmosphere, just like a presence.
Speaker A:Right, yeah, there you go.
Speaker B:No, I mean God inhabits his word.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So I believe that even if you're not picking it up consciously, probably something subconsciously is getting through.
Speaker B:And, you know, how many times have I had a.
Speaker B:Something said just in passing that I'll hear and then later that night I'll dream.
Speaker B:And you know, that kind of plays back about, like yesterday I was thinking about talking to people and getting like cross promotional and asking people if, you know, do you know any other podcasts that I could be on?
Speaker B:Last night I had a dream.
Speaker B:One of my friends from 10 years ago was, gave me a call and was talking about doing a podcast.
Speaker B:And it was just a quick passing thought, but yet gets down in your subconscious and so it comes out in your dream.
Speaker B:So I think that, you know, the word of God can certainly do that.
Speaker B:I know some people like to listen to the word of God as they fall asleep, and if they want to listen to me as they fall asleep, I'm fine with that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Let me put you to sleep with my reading.
Speaker B:But however, however it gets into them, that's what I want.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's beautiful, man.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I don't know why I'm like, what I said I'm a Bible snob.
Speaker A:I, I just.
Speaker A:Language is a fascinating thing that God has given us to be able to communicate.
Speaker A:So how the way you Put this language together for us to be able to communicate for us as a tool for God to communicate to us is, is just wonderful.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I really enjoyed it.
Speaker A:I, I will.
Speaker A:Readers do read because at the end of the day, what.
Speaker A:What Black Sheep is about is or to communicate is that there's more.
Speaker A:God gives us a lot of ways to connect to Him.
Speaker A:Of course, you know, he is the way, the truth and the light.
Speaker A:So there is one path and we are just stuck on this one path.
Speaker A:But God gives us many ways to, to, to get to him.
Speaker A:And so this is a beautiful way to, to get to Him.
Speaker B:Well, thank you.
Speaker B:I appreciate that.
Speaker A:I mean, I know I keep giving you your praises because this is a really hard thing to, to do.
Speaker A:Translation is a really hard thing.
Speaker A:So yeah, you need to do it.
Speaker A:But yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker A:But yeah, for people, for people to pick it up.
Speaker A:It's on Amazon to pick up both versions because you have the whole thing.
Speaker A:You have the New Testament and then I could have swore there was another one.
Speaker A:Is there, is there a third one with the beautiful red cover?
Speaker B:Yeah, there's New Testament, Old Testament, all the daily or all the daily plans that are out there.
Speaker B:You're going through the Bible in a year.
Speaker B:So everything's on Amazon or audible.
Speaker B:And there's a few on Spotify as well, I believe.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I was all over Amazon, so.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I spend way too much time on Amazon.
Speaker B:I'll be honest with you.
Speaker B:It's just so addictive.
Speaker A:But so it is.
Speaker A:So I'm trying something new with Amazon.
Speaker A:As you can see, there's something.
Speaker A:There's something already in my cart, but that's not the point here, here.
Speaker A:So I, I'm doing month to month and I'm only allowing.
Speaker A:I'm pausing my subscription and I'm only allowing my subscription on for holiday, which is like Christmas and then birthdays.
Speaker A:So I just leave it on for the month, pause it.
Speaker A:So, yeah, so good for you.
Speaker B:That takes some self discipline.
Speaker B:I'm not there yet.
Speaker B:Hope God doesn't call me to that.
Speaker A:But you know what?
Speaker A:It's, it's, it now.
Speaker A:I'm working on it now it's, it's on pause.
Speaker A:It turned on pause today.
Speaker A:So I have went on Amazon.
Speaker A:I already put something in my cart.
Speaker A:So this part is going to grow over time.
Speaker A:And then when a birthday or something comes up, it's an excuse.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:To review my card and get everything in it.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:That's gonna be a big package that they deliver that day.
Speaker A:The delivery driver's gonna be so mad at me.
Speaker A:Oh, gosh.
Speaker A:The struggle is real.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, but just to let everybody know, on Amazon, there's really no excuse you can do.
Speaker A:If you do Kindle Unlimited at $0 because you have a subscription.
Speaker A:If you do the audio, it's 6.95.
Speaker A:The hardcover, I'm a.
Speaker A:I'm a Bible snob.
Speaker A:So I will be getting the hardcover 24.99.
Speaker A:And then there's the paperback.
Speaker A:And I do the hardcover because I'm really hard on books.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Okay, books.
Speaker A:Like, I already got a new book, and it was in my book bag.
Speaker A:Someone wants to do a reading with me, and it's.
Speaker A:It's all right.
Speaker A:I'm already.
Speaker A:I'm already messing up the book.
Speaker A:It's already.
Speaker A:It's already ripped.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, anyways.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And audible.com.
Speaker B:the thing I like about them is that they also have.
Speaker B:It's kind of like Kindle.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You can have a plan that you're a part of in every month.
Speaker B:So if you're just part of the plan, you know, it's just basically included that you can listen to it.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I haven't subscribed to that yet.
Speaker A:Amazon is sending me.
Speaker A:Amazon sent me three months free, so they're nice.
Speaker A:I know they're trying.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I may take them up on that offer.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:For three months.
Speaker B:Heck.
Speaker A:Oh, goodness gracious.
Speaker A:Dan, I am so blessed that you joined me today.
Speaker A:This was a wonderful conversation.
Speaker A:I'm glad you reached out for us to have this conversation, because Bible translations, I mean.
Speaker A:I mean, this is.
Speaker A:This is what the.
Speaker A:We wouldn't be having the relationship that we have with God without the book.
Speaker A:I can only imagine there's really no other alternative.
Speaker A:I mean, when you think about the time that people were in this is.
Speaker A:The only thing they could do was just write what they heard.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And this is all we have is.
Speaker A:Is to write what.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:What they heard.
Speaker A:And so, I mean, we have the Holy Spirit, which is.
Speaker A:Which is nice and helpful, as Jesus said.
Speaker A:But, you know, sometimes it's kind of hard.
Speaker A:Like, I'd be like, is that me thinking that?
Speaker A:Or.
Speaker B:I know God telling me that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so thank goodness we have the word to go back and confirm it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:Well, that lines up exactly with what I was thinking.
Speaker A:So that is very.
Speaker A:Yeah, that is very true.
Speaker A:So to be able to talk about the foundation of a relationship.
Speaker A:This is a beautiful conversation.
Speaker A:So I'm blessed to have this.
Speaker B:Well, I'm blessed to be here.
Speaker B:Thank you so much for your endorsement of it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So dampar guys, the easy to understand read Bible.
Speaker A:This is a really great read.
Speaker A:If you're somebody who has had a bad experience.
Speaker A:Experience.
Speaker A:Who had the King James experience, just want to be able to pick something up and just, you know, have a breath of fresh air from God.
Speaker B:Great way to put it.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:So thank you.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:Appreciate it.
Speaker B:Thank you.
