Godly Girlies Unite: Navigating Life, Faith, and Pink Shades!
Today’s chat with Ikeyaira is all about finding God in the chaos of life. We're diving deep into the idea that salvation isn’t a one-and-done deal; it’s more like a lifelong renovation project where we get refined through trials. I mean, who knew that facing struggles could actually be a good thing? It’s like, each challenge is just another opportunity for God to strip away our imperfections—talk about a divine makeover! Plus, we’re sharing some personal stories about how connecting with others over our faith can light the way when things get tough. So if you’re feeling a bit lost or overwhelmed, grab a snack and settle in, because we’re here to remind you that you’re not alone in this wild ride!
Ever wondered how two girls in pink can tackle the deep stuff? Well, welcome to our chit-chat where we serve you a generous slice of life, faith, and a side of sass. Today, I’m vibing with my sister in Christ, Ikeara, from the Godly Girlies podcast. We kick things off talking about how we met - spoiler alert: it involved some serious Bible admiration and possibly a lot of giggles over who wore pink better. But it’s not just about the color coordination; we dive into how our faith journeys have intertwined over the years.
From sharing our struggles and triumphs to how we’ve both grappled with being open about our faith in a world that sometimes feels like a hostile witness stand, we throw around some real talk. We reminisce about those moments when we’ve felt the pressure to conform, and how standing firm in our belief can sometimes make us feel like the odd one out. It’s all about the little nudges from God, those moments that inspire us to keep pushing through the noise and focus on what really matters - our relationship with Him. And yes, we throw in a few sarcastic jabs about how parents think they’re the coolest when they try to speak our language.
As we wrap it up, we share a nugget of wisdom that we hope resonates with you. Life’s trials? They’re just part of the refining process, turning us into the gold God wants us to be. So stick around, grab your pink gear, and let’s get into this wild ride of faith and friendship. You won’t want to miss how we tie all this back to the essence of Christ’s love and purpose for us. Trust me, it’s a ride worth taking!
Transcript
Welcome back.
Speaker A:My name is Ashley, and this is a black sheep Christian podcast.
Speaker A:Today I have my sister from the godly girlies podcast, ikeara.
Speaker A:Thanks for joining me today.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:Thanks for having me.
Speaker A:This is so cool.
Speaker A:As you can see, we are wearing pink.
Speaker A:So if you are looking for her podcast, she has your.
Speaker A:Your thumbnail.
Speaker A:I don't even know what you call it.
Speaker A:Your pic.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's pink.
Speaker A:It's a light.
Speaker A:It's a lighter shade of pink than what I'm wearing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But actually, it's very close.
Speaker B:It's very, very close.
Speaker B:It's like my favorite shade of pink.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:The spirit was in me because I had different shades of pink, and I was like, this one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:I love it, I love it.
Speaker B:You chose right.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:I'm so honored.
Speaker A:I have known.
Speaker A:I call her my sister.
Speaker A:She's not my blood sister, but she is a sister in Christ.
Speaker A:And I have known you for what, four years?
Speaker B:Three years, I think maybe three.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Because I started working in the housing office the summer after my freshman year.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And I don't know if I really knew you like that.
Speaker B:Like, I think it's just, like knowing of you.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And the introductions leading to our conversation.
Speaker A:But our relationship really blossomed when you read your Bible during work.
Speaker A:And I have a.
Speaker A:A.
Speaker A:It's almost like stationary, you know, when people love notebooks and different types of notebooks and different types of pens and the special types of pens.
Speaker A:And that's my way with Bibles.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Like, they're all the same, but the covers.
Speaker A:And I looked.
Speaker A:I saw your Bible cover, and I was like, ooh, I love your Bible cover.
Speaker A:And then, see, you read it.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:I didn't even bring.
Speaker B:It would have probably been a good idea.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then I complimented on your Bible, and then I went to my car and got my Bible all the way.
Speaker B:To your car dedication.
Speaker A:And then that's how it.
Speaker A:In my mind, that's how it blossomed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which was connecting with Bibles.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I agree.
Speaker B:I think that's exactly what I remember.
Speaker B:Because it's weird.
Speaker B:I don't remember our interactions.
Speaker B:Like, I don't know what they were before.
Speaker B:I can't tell you.
Speaker A:Same.
Speaker B:I mean, like, good morning.
Speaker B:How are you today?
Speaker B:But, like, after that, it just got deep.
Speaker B:I don't know where to go this way or this way.
Speaker B:Like, it wasn't downhill, but it Got deep.
Speaker A:Going into the crust and getting those nuggets of gold.
Speaker A:Let's call it like that.
Speaker A:I've never heard such things.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Just making stuff up.
Speaker A:When you said deep, I might as well go for gold.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Oh, that's good.
Speaker B:Okay, I see what you're thinking.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Your podcast is what spurred for me to relaunch mine because I did it during the pandemic.
Speaker A:The pandemic.
Speaker A:We're not doing anything.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so I had time on my hands, and then once we went back to work, that's the beginning of, like, the crumble.
Speaker A:There's a whole other story, but that's for another day.
Speaker A:And when you talked about your podcast, I had a dream, and.
Speaker A:And my dream was quite weird.
Speaker B:I was, as they tend to be.
Speaker A:I had a piano.
Speaker A:There was a piano that needed to be cleaned.
Speaker A:And I put it through the car wash.
Speaker A:Yes, I remember it, Toby, there.
Speaker A:And then I put it through the car wash, and then I had to dry the piano.
Speaker A:And then it was my body, and it was a zombie like body.
Speaker A:And I was making fun of it.
Speaker A:Like, look.
Speaker A:Look at this flappy arm.
Speaker A:Like, I'm making fun of it.
Speaker A:So I don't know what it means.
Speaker A:So I went to a church member.
Speaker A:They're like, you should be teaching again.
Speaker A:I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker A:I put a piano through a car wash.
Speaker A:And you're saying, and I'm looking at my zombie body.
Speaker A:Do you think I should be teaching again?
Speaker A:And that was the process of beginning again.
Speaker A:And hearing your podcast and talking and seeing you walk in, your purpose gave me the strength to begin mine.
Speaker A:So with our introduction, your podcast, in this lesson, in this nugget to give to those who are afraid.
Speaker A:Sometimes those little actions can lead to great things.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I am so blessed to have you in my life.
Speaker A:Oh, my goodness, you're so sweet.
Speaker B:Be where the tissues.
Speaker B:I am very grateful for you as well, Asley.
Speaker B:I think it's like.
Speaker B:Like, of course, we're on, like, a Catholic campus, but I think it's sometimes difficult to actually see people in, like, workspaces who are sharing their faith and sharing their walk with Christ.
Speaker B:And so even though I've been on this campus for.
Speaker B:For years, you have been the first person who I've seen, like, actually, like, walking it out and talking about it openly and actually sharing your faith and your walk and where you are and not just in a way of, like, boasting about, like, oh, yeah, like, I went to church.
Speaker B:Like, Ashley goes to, like, three Bible studies in one week, but she doesn't talk about it.
Speaker B:Like, oh, yeah, got through all the Bible studies.
Speaker B:Like, it's not a boastful thing.
Speaker B:It's, like, genuine excitement for what you're learning and learning more about Christ.
Speaker B:And so that's been so encouraging for me because I think, like, sometimes there's this stigma of, like, fearing, like, being open about your faith in, like, public spaces and, like, especially, like, in workspaces, and the fact that we can just, like, be at the desk like, talking about, like, what we learned in our Bible studies.
Speaker B:And there's, like, no fear in that.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's been very encouraging for my faith, and it's something that I want to take with me as I go into new workspaces, like, of not being afraid to be open and bring my Bible to work and share my faith with other people.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's beautiful.
Speaker A:That's beautiful.
Speaker A:Now, speaking of Bible, I always carry one.
Speaker A:This is my dad.
Speaker A:It's the little one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:For my dad in the army, as I put my purse hard to that.
Speaker A:So, yeah, my dad was in the army, so that's why it's so small.
Speaker A:I've only read from it a few times, quite honestly, probably hard just a little bit.
Speaker A:Just a little bit, because I went to Bible study and forgot my Bible.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, shoot, you know, you didn't have a Bible.
Speaker A:Like, I could literally do it on a Bible apple.
Speaker A:But it's something about opening up the book that.
Speaker A:That makes you feel more connected.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But as we're talking your podcast, your Golly Girly podcast, I must say, those are nuggets that I am continuing to collect as I listen from your podcast.
Speaker A:And for those who would like to know more, the Golly Girlies podcast is mostly college students.
Speaker A:You know, people your age, your generation.
Speaker A:I'm talking, like, as if I'm a boomer or something.
Speaker B:Like, oozy, you millennial.
Speaker A:I am millennial.
Speaker B:Isn't that, like, right above us?
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:Kids, you're in.
Speaker A:This is how we are when we're talking to the office.
Speaker A:It's like, talk, talk, talk, giggle, giggle, giggle, talk, talk, talk, giggle, giggle, giggle.
Speaker A:Students, you are sharing your testimonials with your Tuesdays, and then on your Wednesdays, it's your wisdom Wednesdays in which you guys are sharing not only your testimonies, but also your takeaways from that.
Speaker A:It's kind of like those little actions that are setting forth to those who.
Speaker A:Who need it.
Speaker A:Young and old.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:Listening to.
Speaker A:It's so interesting because, like, you know, adults like me and those who are older generations.
Speaker A:It's so funny because.
Speaker A:I shouldn't say funny, but it's interesting because there's this conversation in the church.
Speaker A:I'm like, how do we connect with our youth?
Speaker B:How do we.
Speaker B:That's so true.
Speaker B:That's exactly how this is.
Speaker B:How do we connect?
Speaker A:It's such a mystery to them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I understand the why, being a parent.
Speaker A:When I was a kid growing up, my parents would say something that is related to the culture at the moment.
Speaker A:It would be like, duh, of course.
Speaker A:That is Hannah Montana.
Speaker A:How dare you ask that question?
Speaker B:Trying to look hip.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know Hannah Montana.
Speaker B:You didn't think that.
Speaker B:Probably didn't even know I used the word duh.
Speaker B:They felt so proud of themselves.
Speaker A:Yes, my younger self was.
Speaker A:But as an adult, as a parent, I should say, your priorities change, your responsibilities change, your focus changes.
Speaker A:So you no longer have the time to focus on the culture.
Speaker A:The now, the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The slang, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker A:And it sadly creates this.
Speaker A:Not a rift, but it's just things become lost in translation as.
Speaker A:As they speak.
Speaker A:And so when the people of the church are like, how do we connect?
Speaker A:It's like, understand their culture, understand the culture.
Speaker A:It may not be their culture, but understand the culture.
Speaker A:And once you understand the culture, then you'll be able to know how to connect and to speak.
Speaker B:Yeah, I completely agree, because I think that same conversation would happen, like, when I was young in our church, because it was like an older generation.
Speaker B:Like, most of our church was older, and it was very few young adults or children in general.
Speaker B:And so we would have a young adult nights that were kind of led by the young people.
Speaker B:And it's like you get all these young people for that one night, but then you can't, like, keep them.
Speaker B:Like, there's no retention if you don't fully adapt and change so that young people feel welcome and that they feel like they're receiving.
Speaker B:Because I think to the spaces that I'm in now, like in Cincinnati, there's a lot of young adult movements right now where they have, like, worship nights and things like that.
Speaker B:And I went to one on Friday, and it was different ages.
Speaker B:But it's just like you said, it's like a different culture, I think, from what older generations experienced in church.
Speaker B:And like, kids today, like, they're really into worship.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And I'm talking long worship.
Speaker B:Like, sometimes I go to worship nights that are like from 7 to 9pm like straight worship.
Speaker B:And so if you, if your church doesn't prioritize that and have allow for a moment for students or young adults to worship, then you're not going to get young adults.
Speaker B:Like I think back to the church I grew up in and we had a choir but we didn't have worship.
Speaker B:And so things like that, like a simple change of like not just getting up and having your choir sing songs, but like opening a space for worship is like what young adults are really into right now.
Speaker B:That's how they feel connected to God.
Speaker B:That's how they feel his presence.
Speaker B:For most people, especially people who are becoming new to the faith, it's, it's the biggest thing right now.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So yeah, I feel like that's a big difference in a change.
Speaker B:Like we, I don't know, like I feel like the Word is good and like all churches are most.
Speaker B:I would believe all churches are preaching the word of God.
Speaker B:But I think the worship aspect is like hit or miss for some churches and I think that's where they're losing young adults.
Speaker A:That's an interesting point of view.
Speaker A:I know with my daughter who will be 18 in days.
Speaker A:I know I'm old, just grew up so fast.
Speaker A:They do pray for me.
Speaker A:My daughter doesn't come to church, so I go to church physically.
Speaker A:And then you know, tell them about what, what we talked about today.
Speaker A:If we do do Bible study, they prefer the zoom because they don't have to be on camera.
Speaker A:So very much an introvert.
Speaker A:But I know with church, you know, there's been times preacher, go to the pulpit, you need to bring your kids to church.
Speaker A:True statement, very true statement.
Speaker A:But when, when we were in Bible study, when their schedule allowed it to be cuz during, with activities and stuff, they had to break and they expressed why.
Speaker A:I think because it's a much older church, they kind of understood the why.
Speaker A:It was kind of like I'm their, their reason is I'm.
Speaker A:It's not I'm with God, I am following in God, I'm trying to read his Word.
Speaker A:But, but it's almost as if they're disenfranchised from, from it.
Speaker A:It's not about the relationship with God, it's about the church that's supposed to be a place of safe.
Speaker A:They don't feel comfortable in that space.
Speaker A:So that for what you said, it's a, it's a very interesting point of view about worship and for them it's a matter of just comfort.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I can definitely like understand that and see that.
Speaker B:Cuz I know like if you're in a church where it's older people, there's like, like a generational disconnect of culture as well.
Speaker B:Of like what was ac acceptable to them versus what we find acceptable.
Speaker B:Like the way I go, I dress to my.
Speaker B:The church I go to now, I probably.
Speaker B:Or I dress the same, actually.
Speaker B:I like to dress.
Speaker A:You do.
Speaker B:That's just me in general.
Speaker A:You do.
Speaker B:But the way people would dress and go, going to my church that I go to now, you probably would be looked at a certain way if you did that going to the church I grew up in.
Speaker B:And it's just like a culture thing.
Speaker B:Like they grew up like wearing the long skirts and all that stuff with ushers who are in long black skirts.
Speaker B:And so for someone to come in in jeans and stuff like that and how we would we dress as young adults like it.
Speaker B:That's a difference as well as.
Speaker B:Well as like our piercings and our tattoos and things like that.
Speaker B:And so I think certain churches are more accepting of and they actually apply that phrase of like come, come as you are.
Speaker B:Because sometimes it's truly come as you are.
Speaker B:Like we just want you in the house of God.
Speaker B:And sometimes it's come as you are, but please dress nice and please look like you're going to church.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And so there's that caveat.
Speaker B:And people feel that when they come in, like you can say come as you are, but if there is an environment that makes people feel that way, they're not coming at all.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And so I think, man, I hope some older people is out here listening to this.
Speaker B:Like, I hope some pastors, churches are listening to this and like with a notepad, like, got it.
Speaker B:Come as you are.
Speaker B:No caveat.
Speaker A:They'd be like, notepad.
Speaker A:You know how the owner people be touching that phone and it's real intentional.
Speaker B:Hey, Cyrus, bring up that note.
Speaker B:No app.
Speaker B:Hey, Google, bring up my notes.
Speaker A:My daughter called me that the other day.
Speaker A:I was like, why isn't this going that way?
Speaker A:And my daughter was like, ugh.
Speaker A:Took my phone and I said, I just had a no person moment.
Speaker A:I am them now.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I just did one of these things.
Speaker A:Like you know how they really be very intentional with that finger.
Speaker B:My mom, she tries, I feel like she does well generally, but then she has her moments as well.
Speaker B:Like the other day she was like, I like screen recorded something and then it disappeared.
Speaker B:Where would it go?
Speaker B:I'm like, your camera roll.
Speaker B:Like did you check there.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And you blame it on the phone, and it's like, it's never the phone.
Speaker A:It's the user, because I do it too.
Speaker A:I'd be like, this phone ain't working right.
Speaker A:Something wrong with it.
Speaker B:And that is true.
Speaker B:They do tap so hard.
Speaker B:Like, I'm surprised your screen didn't break it.
Speaker B:Like, my goodness.
Speaker B:Where did y' all get that from?
Speaker A:Don't worry.
Speaker A:It's coming.
Speaker A:It may not even be phones.
Speaker A:It may be like this, like, I don't know, vaporized thing.
Speaker A:And you'd be like, why?
Speaker A:And I cannot get that.
Speaker B:It's the future of phones.
Speaker A:It's coming.
Speaker A:It's coming.
Speaker B:Pops up.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, like Star Wars.
Speaker A:You know, those holograms.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Something like that.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:You know, Apple need to hire you.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm just.
Speaker A:I'm just making stuff up in my mind.
Speaker A:It could be glasses, and then, like, it could be glasses just like yours.
Speaker A:And then the screen will be in front of us, and you.
Speaker A:You'd be like, I'm trying.
Speaker B:You tap it almost like the.
Speaker B:Like, what are those?
Speaker A:Oh, the Vision Pros.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, like that, but not as big.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker B:But it's like, what if you lose your glasses?
Speaker B:Dang.
Speaker B:I just lost my glasses and my phone.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:It's okay.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We don't have.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:We're.
Speaker A:We're trying to solve the world's problems today.
Speaker A:We're helping Apple out for the future.
Speaker B:For free, too.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:Let's stop talk this conversation.
Speaker A:Why am I here making this money?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:You're not gonna pay for our ideas.
Speaker B:No, no, but y' all saw it here first.
Speaker A:But, you know, with dressing, I completely understand.
Speaker A:Growing up, I was not allowed to wear pants, so I had the dress, I had the stockings, and I had the jelly shoes.
Speaker A:The jelly shoes were a special day, but, you know, I had the Mary Janes, I think they were called.
Speaker A:And then it wasn't till I was an adult that I started wearing jeans.
Speaker A:And, you know, now I go into church wearing sweatshirts.
Speaker B:Yeah, I.
Speaker B:I think the same.
Speaker B:Like, it was never jeans.
Speaker B:Like, if I'm trying to think.
Speaker B:Like, I think sometimes when we go to new churches that, like, my mom had been to before, it would be like, oh, like, how can we dress?
Speaker B:And we're like, oh, like, you could wear jeans to this church.
Speaker B:But it.
Speaker B:You know, it's not just like, oh, you could wear jeans.
Speaker B:It's like, you better pull out some nice jeans, like some black jeans or something, and wear a nice sweater.
Speaker B:Like, it's not just like you can wear jeans.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, growing up, it was always that vibe.
Speaker B:And I think it's just stuck with me now because I still dress up to church.
Speaker B:Like, I don't think I've worn jeans to church.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't think I have, but not because I wouldn't feel comfortable doing so.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:This is how I've been raised.
Speaker B:I have all these clothes now.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:They have to be used somewhere.
Speaker B:These are only church dresses, period.
Speaker A:Got a lot of clothes, period.
Speaker B:Hey, there.
Speaker B:This isn't what this is about.
Speaker B:I'm trying.
Speaker B:I'm trying to decrease, but it's really hard.
Speaker B:It's really hard because imagine you have this shirt from high school.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:With your high school on it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then you throw it out.
Speaker B:And in the day you throw it out is spirit week at your school.
Speaker B:And they telling you to wear a shirt from your high school.
Speaker B:You never know when it's going to happen.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I completely identify with you.
Speaker A:Tell me why.
Speaker A:I am.
Speaker A:I have been now.
Speaker A:I just moved it in my car.
Speaker A:I cleaned out my closet in December.
Speaker A:My daughter assisted in helping me get rid of things.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I can't do it without.
Speaker A:I can't do it without j.
Speaker A:And now I'm probably in week two, and I've been driving around with this bag for Goodwill in my car.
Speaker A:It's been on the floor.
Speaker A:And then I said, it needs to be removed off the floor.
Speaker A:And now it's been in my car.
Speaker B:So what's stopping you from taking it to Goodwill is like a connection or like you just don't have time?
Speaker A:No, it's the same thing that you said.
Speaker A:What if I need that?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But you'll always what if?
Speaker B:And then they'll just stay in your closet.
Speaker B:So my friend tells me, if you haven't worn it in six months, you should throw it out.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's really tough to do when you have, like, spring and summer seasons.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And so I did.
Speaker B:I do have a bag in my closet that is going to go somewhere.
Speaker B:I just haven't decided yet.
Speaker B:I'd like for my friends to take my clothes that way.
Speaker B:It's still near.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:That's my preference.
Speaker B:If it goes to Goodwill, what if I need that back?
Speaker B:I don't know who has it, so I want my friends to go through it first.
Speaker B:And I Just hope they.
Speaker B:They like the items that I like.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker A:I used to have pink shoes.
Speaker A:Tell me why I'm still thinking about those pink shoes after I let them go two years ago.
Speaker A:I could have worn these pink shoes today.
Speaker B:See?
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:See.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Keep your clothes.
Speaker B:If you don't have closet space, get a new closet.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Go to Amazon and get that.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker A:Problem solved.
Speaker B:Literally.
Speaker A:Oh, goodness.
Speaker B:We're always gonna off track.
Speaker A:We always do.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker B:But then we make our way back.
Speaker A:We do.
Speaker A:We do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just like those Israelites.
Speaker A:It went off and then.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Came right back.
Speaker B:You ate that.
Speaker B:Tied it right back to the Bible.
Speaker A:Look, look, she does this.
Speaker B:I told you.
Speaker B:Three Bible studies a week.
Speaker A:She goes, I'm trying to catch up.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I lost a lot of time in going in that wilderness that I chose to go to be like, ooh, what are those birds?
Speaker A:God's like, what makes you think those birds are for you?
Speaker B:Now you're catching up with three Bible.
Speaker A:Studies a week, trying to try to catch up.
Speaker A:Oh, goodness.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I called my.
Speaker A:My brother called me this morning, and we were talking about dreams, and he had a really interesting dream, which thought.
Speaker A:Which it's very interesting because last night.
Speaker A:Last night I thought about a dream that I still haven't gotten clarity over.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:And so he woke up, called me, told me about his dream, which had a connection to my dream in ways.
Speaker A:And so, yeah, we were ministering to each other, and we were talking about spirits, and there was a particular dream that I had that I was connecting to the natural world.
Speaker A:But when he was talking about his dream and spirits, it was kind of like, oh, I'm looking in the wrong direction.
Speaker A:This dream is about the spirits in the spirit world and not natural, because I'm, like, trying to find something in the natural to connect it to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so it's interesting when you say, like, the three Bible studies.
Speaker A:Sometimes when.
Speaker A:When you're in with the Word, as my brother.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:My brother is very heavy with the Word more than me.
Speaker A:And you learn about God's Word, and the more you learn of his Word, you know how he speaks, and you know what he speaks about, and it becomes clear.
Speaker A:So Bible study is really about just not just hearing his Word, but also Bible study allows you, because when you sit and you listen to the pastor, he's giving you something.
Speaker A:But Bible study, what I like about is, is this, like, what we're doing?
Speaker A:We're fellowshipping.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We're sharing testimonies, and that is another way to be to.
Speaker A:To put those pieces together of reading your word and be like, oh, this is what this means.
Speaker A:This is what that means.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I feel like with preaching, it's just your pastor's perspective.
Speaker B:Like, with the Bible, there's so many different, you know, things that you can receive from, like, one passage.
Speaker B:And so when your preacher preaches about something, like, that's just one.
Speaker B:I don't want to say version, but one takeaway versus when you're in a Bible study, we're all reading the same passage and we.
Speaker B:We can all get different understandings.
Speaker B:And maybe my understanding just goes with.
Speaker B:It's only from what I'm seeing because of the situation I'm in.
Speaker B:But then you can get something that's completely different because of the situation you're in.
Speaker B:And so when we're together and we're all sharing this with each other, we're all getting the most out of the scripture.
Speaker B:And so whether this is my situation now or later, I'm in your situation.
Speaker B:I can go back to the same Bible verse and remember what you said when you used to be in the same situation.
Speaker B:And so you get so much more and so many different perspectives and things that you wouldn't have if you were just hearing it from your pastor or even just reading it by yourself.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And like, Bible study is just great.
Speaker A:It is great.
Speaker B:It's so good.
Speaker A:And we go to different churches and we go out was obviously leads to different Bible studies.
Speaker A:But it's just so amazing when we connect and we talk about our Bible studies.
Speaker A:And you'd be like, oh, I remember one where you told me about the sermon, and I was just like, I was just so hungry, and I couldn't.
Speaker A:I couldn't access it online.
Speaker B:That was so sad.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:We've gotten so much better because explanation.
Speaker B:Our church, we stream on YouTube, but we are growing in our technology.
Speaker B:And so we got this iPad just for streaming, and then we got this whole new sound equipment.
Speaker B:But then there as we were, you know, in the beginning stages, we realized that some of the sound wasn't going across, like when you record.
Speaker B:And so there was this one sermon, it was so good.
Speaker B:And I was like, ashley, I'm gonna share this with you.
Speaker B:And the sound was shot.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was bad.
Speaker B:It was screechy.
Speaker B:Or like, either it was too loud or too quiet.
Speaker A:It was too quiet.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, it's an issue because, like, we have pastors who are couple, and the wife, Pastor Jessica, she sings, like, very powerfully so when she's on the stream, you can hear that.
Speaker B:But then afterwards when her husband comes and preach, it just.
Speaker B:It sounds way different.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:And then he comes and it's like.
Speaker B:And so any.
Speaker B:The point of this is we've gotten better.
Speaker B:We started.
Speaker B:What we started doing is like testing out the stream beforehand with like the loud sounds and with the quiet sounds to see like, how we can make that better.
Speaker B:So I think it should be good now.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay, good.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Don't take my word.
Speaker A:I'll check it out again.
Speaker A:Cuz I was really.
Speaker A:I was like, I need this, I'm hungry.
Speaker A:And then was kind of like.
Speaker B:He sent me the notes though.
Speaker A:He did?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I meant to send those to you.
Speaker B:It's somewhere in my email.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:All right, all right.
Speaker A:When the Lord leads you and I.
Speaker A:Oop.
Speaker B:Hey.
Speaker B:My email, it's just like a black hole.
Speaker B:Like once I start, I just, Once I get in there, I just start seeing stuff and digging through and then I forget why I got in there in the first place.
Speaker A:I forgot all about that anyway, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker B:It's still probably good though.
Speaker B:I don't remember exactly what it was at this very moment, but I knew it was good.
Speaker A:Oh yeah?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because you shared it with me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But yeah, I do enjoy like our powwows because some stuff you tell me in like, I feel like we just like piggyback off of each other and then it just ends so.
Speaker A:Well, it does.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:What I like about piggying back off of you sometimes is another thing too is like confusion.
Speaker A:I get confused easily.
Speaker A:You know that about me.
Speaker B:I do know this.
Speaker A:It doesn't take me much to get me off that horse.
Speaker A:Like wind can blow.
Speaker A:And I'm just like, oh, confused.
Speaker A:Oh, your relationship with Christ, I feel is strong that when I piggyback off of you and you confirm it, it's kind of like, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker A:I was going in the right direction.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So you are wise beyond your years.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:You're so kind to me.
Speaker B:I feel so affirmed.
Speaker B:I love this.
Speaker A:And I pray sometimes I don't come into work on time because sometimes I'm in my car praying and reflecting.
Speaker A:But I just want you to know that my prayer for you always is protection.
Speaker A:Is always protection.
Speaker A:And I say that, not I say that because when my brother and I, we were talking about dreams and stuff, one of the comments that he said to me that I think about with you, not to say that you're going through it.
Speaker A:But what protection is.
Speaker A:What I'm asking from God is, is that I don't want the devil to ever silence you because I feel that you are so powerful that it is beyond my understanding.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:What you have is beyond my understanding.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:That's just.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:I've had, like, okay, prophet, I see you.
Speaker B:She got a little bit of everything in her.
Speaker B:No, but I.
Speaker B:I've had a lot of prophecies regarding that.
Speaker B:And, like, I was once told, like, someone said they saw me as, like, a trumpet, like, being very loud for the Lord and, like, just being loud about His Word and, like, just informing me that, like, I'm not going to be, like, a quiet Christian who just, like, sits back and, like, sees things, but, like, talks about it.
Speaker B:You better believe.
Speaker A:Okay, so.
Speaker A:So you just saying that makes me.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, I'm listening to God correctly.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Because, you know.
Speaker B:You know, and.
Speaker B:Yeah, when I pray for you, I pray about that because, like, you know, you have the tools.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think sometimes you just question how to use them or if you're using them.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, and that's the thing about the word of God.
Speaker B:And when you have the Word in you, it's not.
Speaker B:Am I using this right?
Speaker B:Because there's so many ways to use the word of God and to share wisdom.
Speaker B:And you have so much wisdom and, you know so much.
Speaker B:I just don't feel like you think you know so much.
Speaker A:Agreed.
Speaker B:But you do.
Speaker B:You know a lot.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And when I talk to you, sometimes I'm surprised because.
Speaker B:Because, yeah, you act like you don't know a lot.
Speaker B:And then you start speaking.
Speaker B:I'm like, ashley, like, this is not matching the facade.
Speaker B:Like, let's tear it down.
Speaker B:Let's rebuild, like, the confidence in what you're saying, in what you know, because you're putting in the work.
Speaker B:Like, you're going to these Bible studies.
Speaker B:Clearly, you're receiving.
Speaker B:And you, like, you led a Bible study, too.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm about to do one again tonight.
Speaker A:See, and you know, it's funny because in the last one that I did, there is a.
Speaker A:There was a lady in there, and it was like, secondary matters.
Speaker A:What's considered secondary matters?
Speaker A:And they were younger, like, high school that she brought, that were in this Bible study because it's mostly adults, but she brought some high schoolers, which is cool.
Speaker A:Which is fine.
Speaker A:But my lesson wasn't, you know, how you tailor a message for a type of audience.
Speaker A:But it wasn't you know, but anyways, that's fine.
Speaker A:And it was like, what is secondary matter?
Speaker A:So she said that to me so I can explain to them, right.
Speaker A:I've been kind of removed from Youth and Children's Church.
Speaker A:And I said, well, secondary matters is like how you perform baptism, how you perform communion.
Speaker A:These are what's called secondary matters.
Speaker A:And then she questioned that.
Speaker A:She, she was like, no.
Speaker A:And I was like, oh, oh.
Speaker A:Like, like my mind was kind of like, oh, I, I didn't read this right.
Speaker A:So she went on her phone and was looking it up and trying to say her definition of secondary matters.
Speaker A:And then, and then as she was looking at her phone and reading it, I was right.
Speaker A:And it was kind of like, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Speaker A:So when you say that, like, I feel that a lot of times in my life, and which is why I pray for protection.
Speaker A:I have experienced walking and then being told it was incorrect and being told that what I was doing was wrong.
Speaker A:And so I have reverted back in and put, or put myself in the back because I'm thinking to myself, oh, I'm not getting this right.
Speaker A:Let me witness and learn what that is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I was right all along.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think that sounds very similar to like, my friend and like things that she has experienced where it's like you feel like you did the right thing or like you said the right thing, but then other people say you didn't.
Speaker B:And thing about having relationship with God is that once you accept that relationship, like you're in his hands and you can't be plucked out.
Speaker B:And what that means is God is not going to allow you to do anything or say anything that, that he doesn't approve of without giving you conviction.
Speaker B:So if you said something, you did something, and you didn't feel convicted about it, God didn't see a problem in it.
Speaker B:And if he did, you're never too far where he can't bring you back.
Speaker B:Like, you, you can't.
Speaker B:Like with God, you can't do anything that's going to fully remove you out of his presence.
Speaker B:Like, he's.
Speaker B:He's always around you.
Speaker B:He's always there when you're in his hands, you can't be removed from that.
Speaker B:And so when you are saying these things, if what you said was wrong, God will convict you.
Speaker B:And what it sounds like is other people are convicting you when God didn't.
Speaker B:And so you are right, you are walking in his will and saying what he allowed you to say.
Speaker B:However, it's wrong to other people.
Speaker B:But it was Never wrong to God.
Speaker B:And it's like, if it was wrong to him, he would let you know that.
Speaker B:And so if God isn't telling you something, then that just goes to show that it wasn't wrong in his eyes.
Speaker B:And like, things like that, where it's like secondary matters.
Speaker B:They're secondary matters for a reason.
Speaker B:Like, it's not something where.
Speaker B:Oh, like if you do baptism this way and not this way, like you're going to hell or like God doesn't love you.
Speaker B:Like, those are secondary matters, not just to us, but to him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because it's not central to.
Speaker B:To what matters to Him.
Speaker B:Like how you baptize.
Speaker B:Baptism is.
Speaker B:Is the thing that is of importance.
Speaker B:Communion is the thing that is of importance.
Speaker B:Everything else about details.
Speaker B:It's not as important to your salvation.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Because that is what this is about.
Speaker B:That is the importance that is your substance.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, I had this thought about how Jesus came to us.
Speaker A:You know, he was born in a manger.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He is the king of kings.
Speaker A:But yet he was born in one of the most.
Speaker A:In my opinion.
Speaker A:I would never have.
Speaker A:Would have asked to give him birth in a barn.
Speaker A:I would have been like, I'm carrying the king of kings.
Speaker A:I deserve better than sanitary conditions.
Speaker A:Bird flu, anybody.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:But my.
Speaker A:My mind is thinking about how.
Speaker A:How Jesus came to us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so he came to us in a way that was accessible.
Speaker A:And so when.
Speaker A:When you talk about secondary matters, Jesus could have been born an entirely different way in a hospital.
Speaker A:I mean, there were hospitals back then, but I mean, I think the point is proven.
Speaker A:But it.
Speaker A:What mattered was he came.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so when we do communion, when we do baptism, what matters is we are worshiping with God.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And when we walk in our purpose, everybody's purpose is different.
Speaker A:Everybody's journey is different, and everybody's story is different.
Speaker A:But what matters is we're walking in for God.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And going off of that.
Speaker B:It's like, even in Jesus's ministry, like, people were saying that he did things wrong.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it was Jesus, like, God made flesh.
Speaker B:And so it just goes to show, like, we'll face the same things, but knowing that if God allowed us to do this and if God told us to do this, that's all that matters.
Speaker B:Because the Pharisees and continually felt like Jesus was doing the wrong thing and kept telling him so, but he always responded.
Speaker B:You know, like I was reading John not long ago where Jesus was.
Speaker B:He had told the man at the pool of Bethesda to pick up his mat and walk.
Speaker B:And the Pharisees told him, like, oh, it's the Sabbath.
Speaker B:You're not supposed to be, you know, carrying your mat.
Speaker B:I don't even understand that.
Speaker B:But it wasn't my time to understand.
Speaker B:And so then they found Jesus later and Jes.
Speaker B:And they were like, you're not supposed to be working on the Sabbath.
Speaker B:And he said, my God, he's working every day, and I'm about my father's business, and so I'm going to do what he does.
Speaker B:And so that's all that matters.
Speaker B:Doing what God wants you to do and doing what God would do, not what people think you should do.
Speaker A:Yeah, agreed.
Speaker A:You know, the hard part is because we're.
Speaker A:We're.
Speaker A:I mean, this message is said so many times.
Speaker A:Do what God tells you to do.
Speaker A:But how do I know it's God?
Speaker A:Sometimes.
Speaker A:And sometimes that.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:Because, you know, I get confused easily.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes, I do know.
Speaker A:I'd be knocked off by that horse real hard.
Speaker A:I didn't need a road to Damascus.
Speaker A:God just needs to just blow some wind in my direction and she'll fall off the horse.
Speaker B:Like, you don't need to blind her.
Speaker B:She could fall off the horse on her own.
Speaker B:It reminds me of, like.
Speaker B:Well, I was telling you about my fast, and it was like, the one healthy meal a day.
Speaker B:And in my head, I'm like, okay, period.
Speaker B:Like, we're eating one meal.
Speaker B:And then you started confusing me.
Speaker B:You're like, is it just out of the three meals, one is healthy?
Speaker B:And I'm like, actually, what.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Why would they do that?
Speaker B:Like, we're.
Speaker B:It's lit.
Speaker B:We're trying to, like, deny ourselves.
Speaker B:Why would it be like, oh, yeah, two of your meals could be terrible, but one needs to be healthy.
Speaker B:And in my head, I just automatically thought, okay, we're just having one meal a day.
Speaker B:But then you raise that question.
Speaker B:I'm like, wait, is it just one healthy meal out of the three?
Speaker A:But then you said other people were doing it too, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, but that was after the fact.
Speaker B:I remember when we were just talking about it before the week had even came.
Speaker B:But, yeah, other people were doing their own thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, but, but, but you were convicted not to do it even after you.
Speaker A:You were learning.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What other people were doing.
Speaker B:Yeah, but you were talking about how.
Speaker B:How you can know it's God's voice.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And I used to deal with that a lot of.
Speaker B:Because I remember when I was younger, my prayer used to always be like, oh, like, I just want to hear the voice of the Lord.
Speaker B:Like, I just want to hear the voice of the Lord.
Speaker B:And that's because I thought it was going to be like, hello, ikea, it is me, God.
Speaker B:Like, and I thought it was going to be like, boom, I have no doubt.
Speaker B:Yeah, but it's not.
Speaker B:I think there's a scripture that talks about how, like, the Lord, he speaks softly.
Speaker B:And so sometimes you can and will doubt that it's God's voice.
Speaker B:But it goes back to what you said about reading your Bible.
Speaker B:When you read your Bible, you know what God sounds like, and you also know what he finds acceptable and what he doesn't find acceptable.
Speaker B:So then if you hear something and you know it contradicts with the word of God, that can't be God.
Speaker B:But oftentimes we hear something and it's not something we would say.
Speaker B:So it's not like, was that me?
Speaker B:You wouldn't have said that.
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker B:It's just as simple as that.
Speaker B:Sometimes, like, you hear, like, you should pray for that person.
Speaker B:It's like, I wouldn't say that to myself.
Speaker B:Like, certain things you can automatically tell, but other times, when you're unsure, compare it to what you already know about God.
Speaker B:And if God would say that.
Speaker B:And at that point, whether it's you or not, you know, it's still in alignment with God's will.
Speaker B:But it's just as simple as that.
Speaker B:You read your word, you learn what God sounds like and what he approves of.
Speaker B:And then from that, you begin to know, okay, this is God, but just in your head.
Speaker B:It's not automatic difference.
Speaker B:And that's why you.
Speaker B:It's like working out.
Speaker B:Like, you have to practice it.
Speaker B:You have to continue to speak to God and then listen for his response.
Speaker B:So then you know, okay, this is God.
Speaker B:And then every time you speak and he responds, you have no doubt this is God.
Speaker A:Yeah, which is why I'm trying to do.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm trying to catch up.
Speaker A:Maybe I need to add another Bible study.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:No, you do not.
Speaker A:What are you catching up to?
Speaker B:Where are you exactly?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm trying to make sure that my mansion is perfect.
Speaker A:You know, I don't know what type of floors that I want, but I'm sure he's gonna know.
Speaker B:Yeah, of course.
Speaker A:I don't know how many rooms I'm.
Speaker B:Gonna have a good father.
Speaker B:But if your father on earth knows how to give good goods, how much more girl would Your father, who is in heaven, give unto.
Speaker B:Well, it talks about giving the Holy Spirit, but still.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Cake.
Speaker A:I hope there's cake up there for us to eat.
Speaker B:I'm sure there'll be cake.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He's hearing your.
Speaker B:He's hearing your request right now.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I need to start writing right now.
Speaker A:Cake.
Speaker A:Grapes.
Speaker A:Welch's grapes.
Speaker B:That's the thing.
Speaker B:Like, this is worldly food.
Speaker B:We're gonna be in heaven.
Speaker B:Like, forget there's gonna be cakes.
Speaker B:We didn't even.
Speaker A:He's gonna translate.
Speaker B:It's probably not gonna even be called cake.
Speaker B:It's probably gonna be something else.
Speaker B:Are we even speaking English?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Like, are we.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So I don't know.
Speaker A:We will be speaking in a whole other language, and I know that because I dream of it, and I've had a dream in where there have been times.
Speaker A:The only time I speak in this language is when somebody's being removed.
Speaker A:Right, right, right.
Speaker A:But when I speak this language, I get frustrated with myself every time because I speak.
Speaker A:Speak the language.
Speaker A:And then in my mind, I'm trying to speak English, but I know what I'm saying.
Speaker A:Like, I know what I'm saying.
Speaker A:I'm like, why am I speaking this way?
Speaker A:And I'm like.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then after I have the dream, I never see that person again.
Speaker A:And it only happens.
Speaker A:It only happens in my dream.
Speaker A:And there's been one time I.
Speaker A:I was speaking this language, and God said, not now.
Speaker A:It was like, not yet.
Speaker A:Not now.
Speaker A:And then the person was in my life for a little while longer.
Speaker A:And then when I had the dream, I ended up.
Speaker A:It was a person that I actually worked with.
Speaker A:It was a former boss.
Speaker A:And then the next.
Speaker A:We weren't even back at work.
Speaker A:And then I got the text from their boss telling me that they resigned.
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:So we will be speaking a completely different.
Speaker A:I don't know what it's called.
Speaker A:I've only spoken in my dreams.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:But there have been times.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:But there have been times when I speak it, and I get frustrated.
Speaker A:It's like, why am.
Speaker A:Why am I not talking in English?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like your flesh is frustrated because your spirit knows.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:The more we know.
Speaker B:But, yeah, we have these conversations all the time about, like, heaven and what it'll be like.
Speaker A:You do?
Speaker A:We're gonna be on the same street?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Neighbors.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:A couple houses down.
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, Elizabeth across the street, Ruth.
Speaker B:We're gonna have girls time.
Speaker B:We're gonna, like, sit on our porches.
Speaker B:We're gonna have rocking chairs made by Jesus.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:On our porches.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:It's gonna be great.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It is gonna be wonderful.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Every day I'm just adding new things.
Speaker B:I feel like, oh, okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because it's like, I think when you think about me, you think I'll have, like, a pink outhouse, but I don't know.
Speaker B:What if I want, like, subtle splashes of pink?
Speaker B:But I also feel like there's gonna be colors that I don't even know yet.
Speaker B:So it's like, you know, lord, have your way.
Speaker B:You know me better than I know myself.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I remember I talked with my brother about the house, and he was like, what kind of stone?
Speaker A:I was like, stone that I don't know about.
Speaker A:I barely know the stone here.
Speaker B:Quartz.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker B:Literally, like, he knows what stone I want, what stone I would like.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:He's got me.
Speaker A:How do we know it's stone?
Speaker A:I don't even know why we think of stone.
Speaker A: floors from a tree that we in: Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:This is what happens at work.
Speaker B:We just wake up stuff, you know, all the time.
Speaker B:Like, we're like.
Speaker B:When we walk, maybe we'll float when we glide to one another.
Speaker A:I forgot about that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But will we have feet?
Speaker B:I think we will.
Speaker B:But what's the point of walking?
Speaker B:Because I don't know.
Speaker A:But we have forever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So if I need to walk from, I don't know, your place to go see David.
Speaker A:You know, I'm hanging out with David today.
Speaker B:We about to dance.
Speaker A:Naked in the bushes over there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You have time to walk?
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Honestly, with eternity, we could probably just walk all of heaven and still have time.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:But I don't.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:What if we could just teleport to places?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't want to get my hopes up.
Speaker B:Well, hopes up.
Speaker B:It's going to be beyond my imagination.
Speaker A:We don't need a teleport.
Speaker A:They're going to be angels.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go see David Pew.
Speaker A:I'm being silly now.
Speaker A:I'm being silly.
Speaker A:What was that?
Speaker B:Is that the angel, like, flying you away?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay, I'm being silly now.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Because at that point, Gabriel, Michael, you know, they don't need.
Speaker A:They weren't.
Speaker A:Their purpose, wasn't to hold a sword.
Speaker A:So at that point I'd be like, yo, Michael.
Speaker A:Hey, you about to go over there?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Can you take me over there to go see David, please?
Speaker B:I'm sure we'll all have our own, though.
Speaker B:Like our own angels.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:That's so cute.
Speaker B:Because like in the Bible it talks about how, you know, it's a scripture.
Speaker B:It talks about when you call in the name of the Lord, he will send his angels concerning you.
Speaker B:Meaning they are angels that God has just for you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, yes.
Speaker A:I feel like I have assistance.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Even though I'm supposed to be for God, I'm supposed to be serving him angels.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But then again, I don't know.
Speaker B:Because in heaven, aren't we just like the angels are?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I could get very deep.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:We, we do.
Speaker A:We always.
Speaker B:We only have an hour, so we gotta rebook the room.
Speaker B:Next time on my episode.
Speaker A:This is a.
Speaker A:We do need to continue.
Speaker A:We do, we do need to continue.
Speaker A:But to slowly wrap things up.
Speaker A:First of all, I just want to say thank you.
Speaker A:I'm going to say it to the very end.
Speaker A:But as we talked about sharing testimonies, sharing wisdom.
Speaker A:What nugget of wisdom do you have on your mind to.
Speaker A:On your heart to pass?
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:I'd have to think about this.
Speaker B:Oh my goodness.
Speaker B:I was just talking on my Snapchat.
Speaker B:I have a private story called Holy homies.
Speaker B:Or like when I'm doing my Bible study and I have something to share, I'll just share it.
Speaker B:But I was, I was like just in the shower and I feel like the Lord shared this with me because I've been going through like a lot, like a lot of trials and things like that in my life.
Speaker B:And I just always like, it's something like one thing ends, another thing begins.
Speaker B:But like the Lord just revealed to me that like, salvation, it's not a one day thing.
Speaker B:Like you're not saved and then immediately you're made perfect.
Speaker B:Like your life is the process of continuing to be saved and refined.
Speaker B:And when we think about refinement, it's the process where gold is put under high heat so that the imperfections can be removed.
Speaker B:And so for us, our life is a process of refinement where God is putting us through these trials so that he can remove the imperfections that the world placed in us.
Speaker B:Because the Bible talks about how we were born into sin and we were shaped by iniquity.
Speaker B:And so if we're shaped by sin, and by the.
Speaker B:The horribleness of the world.
Speaker B:The Lord needs to put us through trial.
Speaker B:He needs to put us under fire, to remove the imperfections so that in the end he can reshape us to who he originally created us to be.
Speaker B:And so in James 1, it talks about.
Speaker B:It says, consider it pure joy.
Speaker B:My brothers and sisters, when you face trial.
Speaker B:And that's because.
Speaker B:It says, because the like trials produce perseverance.
Speaker B:And so the more you go through life and you face trials, you're growing perseverance so that the next thing is not as hard anymore.
Speaker B:And eventually things just become easier and the Lord is able to remove these things out of you quicker.
Speaker B:And so the process becomes easier.
Speaker B:And so we're considering it pure joy every time we face a trial, because we know this is God removing something in us that was never supposed to be.
Speaker B:And in turn, he replaces more of Himself.
Speaker B:And so anytime we face a trial, it's the ability of God to add more of Himself into us and make us more like Him.
Speaker B:And so we rejoice in suffering because it's making us more like God.
Speaker A:I'm writing.
Speaker A:I'm writing this nugget down.
Speaker B:It's recorded.
Speaker A:That is very true.
Speaker A:That's very true.
Speaker A:I just want to write down James1 so I can read it later.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:I'm digesting.
Speaker A:That's beautiful.
Speaker A:You know, it's funny because something was telling me, like, you need to ask her something.
Speaker A:And I was like, I don't know how to ask.
Speaker A:I don't know what I'm asking for.
Speaker A:And it was through, like, you should be asking, asking her.
Speaker A:And I'm like, I don't know what.
Speaker A:I don't know what I'm asking.
Speaker A:But, but that.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker A:That was very beautiful.
Speaker A:It was probably for somebody who's listening to this.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I will be honest.
Speaker A:That was something for me as well, with what I'm going through in my life.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so I greatly appreciate that.
Speaker B:Of course, it was for me, too.
Speaker B:He was 15.
Speaker B:Because, man, it's not gonna get easier.
Speaker A:No, it isn't.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:I don't even know why we make it into a big deal.
Speaker A:I bet you we're gonna go to heaven and we'll be like, why was that hard?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Like, it's all just gonna come quick.
Speaker B:Like, our life here is so quick.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Compared to eternity.
Speaker B:And so when you have.
Speaker B:When you go through life thinking about eternity and not just this quick thing in life, nothing will seem hard.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Like, when we think about Jesus, he was on Earth for 32 years.
Speaker B:And of course, we're on Earth for a longer time.
Speaker B:Some people, maybe not, but when he was always thinking about eternity and knowing that once this part is over, I'll be back seated at the right hand of God.
Speaker B:And so with your eyes always towards God in heaven and eternity and the beauty of that.
Speaker B:Nothing you face in life will be hard because you'll always remember that it's so quick.
Speaker B:This is so temporary for our eternity and glory.
Speaker B:And so look ahead.
Speaker A:There's no better way for me to end that.
Speaker A:Akira, I want to thank you.
Speaker A:I am blessed for what you have given me.
Speaker A:I'm blessed for what I have received today from the Lord.
Speaker A:I almost feel like I'm about to pray.
Speaker A:The Golly girlies podcast.
Speaker A:I highly recommend.
Speaker A:There are nuggets in there that anybody is able to receive.
Speaker A:Akira, I want to be able.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:This is going to continue.
Speaker B:Yes, yes, it will.
Speaker B:Check us out on my show.
Speaker B:But thank you for having me, Ashley.
Speaker B:I'm so grateful to be here.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:All right, I'll see you guys next time.
Speaker B:By.
